Yes, Penthouse was raided once in a year . Other clubs got hit few times within a few weeks and already took of the curtains. It's just a matter of time before all Detroit strip clubs do. If a club does not comply with the regulations could get shut down for up to six months . Some club owners don't want to take the chance. I've been dancing long time and know what's going on, so how much more proof or evidence do you really need?! I'm just explaining how it is. If you are looking for a news paper articles or news on the local channels you won't find any . The media does not deal with stuff like this.
So with this "new police chief in place", a line I read frequently, the Penthouse Club has been raided a grand total of 1 time. It had been over a year since they were last raided, and by all accounts the most recent raid was considered mild with business as usual continuing.
It could be true, but need a lot more evidence that things are really changing in the Detroit clubs.
The new city ordinance from 2010 is actually an old ordinance rewritten with little changes. VIP rooms and private dances were never legal. I guess it depends on the level of corruption going on. The other thing is before 2009 most clubs were intolerant toward extras and you were hardly able to find a dancer who would agree to do more than a dance. After 2009 the VIP rooms became more private , the extras became widely available and the new city officials apperrently are people who like to do their jobs right. In fact at the beginning of this year the new chief of police gathered all strip club owners and told them he will be raiding the clubs big time and put an end to the prostitution.
The City Ordinance was changed it 2010. Section 5-15-7(a)(3) prohibits setting up any area to perform that has an obstructed view to every other area of the establishment. It was designed to eliminate VIPs. The real change actually is that the new mayor and chief of police are enforcing it. That's why nothing changed until recently.
I don't get why it's being said that all Detroit clubs need to remove their VIP curtains.
Who is claiming this, and what has changed? I have heard nothing about a change in the way the Detroit clubs have their VIP set up except from random unconfirmed posters. Every time I've gone to the club's lately, the curtains are still there and it's business as usual.
What exactly is this change you are talking about where Detroit clubs need to remove the VIP curtains? Where can we get confirmation on this and not just hear-say from a message board that anyone can post on?
I visit from out state when in town on business and always feel perfectly safe and comfortable from the time I pull into valet and am in the club until I leave. Have stayed until 2:00 AM a few times as well.
Think you're also right that all clubs get hit every now and then. The only thing that has me curious lately is all the rumblings I'm reading about Detroit and their VIP rooms going away.
I agree . It is silly to think just because Penthouse got raid ten days ago and some girls have pimps it is not a safe place to go to. This is one of the nicest clubs in Detroit and does not get raided as much as the other clubs. There are plenty of dancers who don't have pimps. As far as the raid it was just about time , after all it's been more than a year. The other clubs already got hit few times within six months. Of course no one is getting beat up while at the club and what happens OTC is not the club responsibility.
Normally three officers, but if they are planning a major hit, then a lot more./
Non of the Detroit strip clubs are safe. Don't fool yourself that one strip club is riskier than another. All clubs get raided twice a year. All strip clubs have dancers, who have pimps or looser ass boyfriends, so you can end up having your butt kicked either by a greedy pimp or a jealous boyfriend. It is your personal choice where to go and I'm not trying to justify anything or anyone.
I seem to remember the VIP rooms closest to the bar, the ones we are calling the red rooms, as being smaller than the VIP on the corner near the balcony and the rooms in the back which are quite a bit larger. I'm thinking there are only so many vice officers during the raid, but perhaps the logic is more extra curricular activity is more likely to be taking place in the larger VIP rooms.
BTW....how many officer are there usually during a raid? 5-6? 10-20?
Because vice often don't see these rooms. They normally go straight to the ones all the way on the back where everyone assume is the safest. No logic that's just how it is. In fact during the raid last February there were people in the red rooms and vice was not aware.
I don't get the logic on why these are the safest.
These are easily accessible to anyone in the upstairs area. Especially a plain clothes vice could check these rooms with no obstruction. The other rooms would need to bypass the bouncer or gain access through the back stairway door.
It seems the red rooms have the least warning....
Red rooms are the ones with red curtains behind the upstairs bar. As of now Penthouse is still keeping the curtains I have no clue for how long. Compared to other clubs in the city of Detroit Penthouse does not get raided as often, so it is one of the safest. The warning depends on the vice strategy, as I've mentioned in an earlier post, leaves you anywhere from no time up to 30 seconds to leave the room.
Yes, I'm a dancer and I confirm that the red rooms are the safest. Normally, when the lights are on that means the vice is already inside the building. At Penthouse the bouncers warn you not lights , so it is important to tip them because they are the ones who would try to save you in such situation. Also, do not touch a dancer even if you are out of VIP room. In Detroit a six feet rule apply . If you touch a dancer even when her clothes are on you can still get a ticket.
Sounds like 1 of 3 things can happened to a customer when a raid occurs:
1) You are not in VIP = nothing. No worries.
2) In VIP caught receiving regular lap dances = ticket. Thinking we are talking around a $100-$200 type of deal but that is it. In the grand scheme not much of a big deal
3) In VIP caught receiving more than lap dances = arrest. This would obviously be very, very bad.
Had a dancer tell me one time there was a back door to the building, either to the 1st floor or 2nd floor, that police could come through if there is a raid. With PH being right on the street, perhaps they could swoop in pretty quickly and get to the VIP rooms without much notice.
I was told by a dancer that lights would be turned on or flashed if there was ever a raid. Because I am a regular, she said if a raid ever happened to just leave the VIP area right away and don't even worry about the money until later. The most important thing is to clear the VIP area to avoid the hassles.
It depends… if the police park on the street and walk up to the club then the valet doesn't have enough time to page the bouncers or the manager. Either way you have anywhere from 15 seconds to a minute to get out of the room . Some clubs are equipped with vice lights , others the bouncers let you know . Unfortunately, sometimes it happens so fast that leaves no time to react:(
In the vip at toy chest they turned bright lights on as a warning. Happened to me there before the curtains came down. Had just gotten back there, so neither of us was in a compromising position. The dancer bolted out of there as soon as the lights went on. It happened to be a false alarm, but I figure that place is so small that you'd be caught every time. I think your chances improve at PH or Coliseum where there's a greater distance from the door. I think Coli's long driveway in has to be the best protection.
Suppose it can depend on the set up of the club, but wonder how much notice one would have in VIP if a raid was taking place? There are logistics to the police pulling into the lot, getting out of their cars, entering the building, getting upstairs.... Just wonder what type of notice those in VIP receive and how much time they have?
No. Normally when a raid occurs the VIP rooms are the target .Curtains or no curtains both costumers and dancers get tickets assuming they are having clean lap dances , or if caught doing extras both get arrested . This applies for all strip clubs in the city of Detroit.
Had time with the only red head named destiny that works there. Amazing girl with a drop dead sexy body not to mention the best ass an real tits in the whole place.I guarantee your $ is well spent with her and you won't be disappointed. Best thing ever is she's one of the few that doesn't have a pimp..
Stay away from the Texas girl Mckenzie an her crew. Fairly attractive but super nasty liable to catch an std. Mckenzies pussy smells funky most definitely has some std.. The whole crew are disappointments an will rob u blind.
Pimpin aint easy but it is if u got 5 girls working at phc watch out for Mackenzie's work partner that has tattoo that reads : eazy's snowbunny on her hip. Ripoff artist with big black pimp like mackemzie
I enjoyed grabbing boobs and licking tits. I had many kisses, but she refused kissing deeply. Extra she offered was cbj. I heard from the other girl another day Amber artfully rips off one Asian guy. This seems to be very famous among the girls in phc.
I also got a dance from Amber last night. She was amazing. Her boobs were amazing. I enjoyed a limited extra service with reasonable price, but I guess I could have more (full) depending on negotiation.
I got a dance from Amber yesterday. It was good. She's fun and she's pretty cool to hang out with. She wasn't pushy and she wasn't demanding anything. She did offer extras but I didn't take her up on them. She's definitely worth the time.
Anyone know much about her from afternoons? Gorgeous looking brunette spinner with an awesome body. How is she in the VIP. Also interested to know if Bella is still around. Last few times I've been I have not seen her.
McKenzie and her crew. her house sisters wife in laws whatever they call each other nowadays. Lolani, Yani, there are plenty in that crew can't think of all the names. Destiny. Yasmin. Faith... Daisy. Taya. If I missed anyone please add who else.
Italian looking dark wavy hair, no tattoos or piercings, gymnastic looking but not rail thin. Usually would spend a long time with each customer and used the larger corner VIP booths. Usually would talk to customers for a long time and get a drink before going to the VIP. Guys would seem to monopolize her time and not let her circulate to give dances. Talked about possibly going to Vegas. Usually started on days but later like 3-4pm
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