I can only speak to my own experience but I have done dozens of private booths over many years with both of these girls. When faced with the pressure of giving the extras that other girls readily made available, they both made it clear in no uncertain terms that they weren't going to go there. So I think the preceding poster is either a jealous dancer or a jilted customer.
when chicks are that hot they don't need to give extras, and in fact both these dancers have absolutely pristine reputations. Malia as far as I know is either retired or on extended leave having last danced at Desire, and Asia currently is at Fantasy
adjusted for functioning brain cells, maybe Malia is equal, but for pure sex appeal and the ability to swing that ass and strut it around, this Asia has to win, all based upon a first impression after spending about 3 hours hanging at the warehouse club yesterday
Not true...her sister is just as hot so that makes her 1 in 500!
Most of the girls that I have talked to, at all the clubs, say earnings are down from this time last year. The girls are swapping clubs thinking "the grass is greener" but finding out that after the initial "new girl" spike, everything is pretty much the same all over. The girls at Desire are doing a little better than most because they've always depended more on regulars rather than the stage tippers or the single dance guys.
The answer is the same for this and any business, providing more value for the dollar. (Bang for the Buck)
I still spend as I always have, and I still enjoy myself greatly. I wonder if the girls have seen a cut back. I'm an afternoon guy, which is usually not super busy anyway, I wonder how the girls are doing at night?
I've always preferred Desire, much better club, but this afternoon i had time to drop by Fantasy, you know that warehouse across town, to see if this "1 in 1000" chick" was dancing. No vacation for her today. Oooooh Baby! This Asia chick is smoking hot, 10 plus w/o any doubt. I figure 50k Guy is either crazy, his brains are scrambled from too much flying, or just maybe that Russian chick in New Jersey someone mentioned the other day - has him pussy whipped.
the issue today is the specific dancer not bouncers per se, maybe at C.F you might be somewhat limited because of the design of the "doors", but at Desire and C.L for example, especially in the curtain room, -- bouncers could usually care less. Also Satin Doll and to some extent Foxy Lady have even loosened their standards in recent months.
i have never been to many clubs, but a friend directed me to cheaters, yikes, what a dump...
but what i did like was there were some pretty (some)not all girls that did private booths and dances and were not afraid to touch me, is this club like that or will i have a bouncer breathing down my back every second of my dances, what's the point of private dances if there is no privacy?
having an attraction and preference is not being racist.you dont like chunky girls, are you prejudiced towards plus size ladies?no, thin woman are your preference.when a white guy is attracted only to his race, its deemed normal but when someone of color is attracted only to his race, he might be racist?wow ok.
Whoa.....I don't think the guy was being racist by stating his preference for pink nips, he wasn't slamming brown ones. You better check the mirror man as you might be the racist here...Personally I love em all, tall short, dark or pale, just not too chunky, which is purely a preference not a dis.....
that sounds just like me, except for my hair which always stays flat, and the defensiveness, because to be honest no one ever talks to me anyways. Next time i'm going to carry a small paper towel to wipe the sweat, and will try to limit my rapid eye movement and definitely look bartenders and dancers in the eye, and stop checking the doors, which I don't know why I do anyways, because i' m not a criminal at all. I expect to be in the club friday and hope it works and one of the girls finally offers me a dance. thanks for helping me
among the factors that will make it harder to get dances: profuse sweating, eyes constantly darting from side to side when sipping a drink (like a dog does when eating), continual checking of entrances where police could enter, and exits for possible escape routes, a wild glazed look in both eyes, hair frizzed up in a wild manner, if no hair- then excessive shine on bald head, no direct eye contact with dancers or bartenders, usually a general shifty way of moving about the club and for some, defensive answers to simple questions: e.g "where you from"? ans "why?"
Def go by that last comment...us girls are programmed not to hound the guys, so asking at the stage will be your ace in the hole so to speak. Were all friendly, and would love to dance for you...but every so often we need you guys to let us know youd like our attentins. :) Best of Luck...altho I doubt after this youll need it LOL. Hope to see you there. I work Mon, Thur, Fri, day shifts this week. :)
Don't take it personal, it just the nature of this club. Some hate it, to me it's the reason why it's my current favorite. These ladies for the most part are not aggressive and will not hound you. When you tip at the stage, let her know you'd like a dance. All will gladly oblige. Most of the dancers feel that most young guys don't spend, so that's also going against you. Once they know your spending, we all become Brad Pitt.
if you've got good hygiene and don't look like you just murdered somebody - the odds of even the hottest girl turning you down if you simply ask for a dance, particularly if you're ready to spend 100's, are very very low. Its a business, they WANT to earn money. The fear-of-rejection type hottest girls in this club and elsewhere who try to avoid cold solicitations have a worse problem because they will be turned down all the time - and because (even when its not) - many feel and act like every turndown is personal - even though 90% of the time the guy is probably broke anyways
I have come here twice recently. Once on an afternoon 1-4 the other time Sat night 10-2. It is a nice club with beautiful women. My only problem was i could not get a dance. I sat alone and already had it in my head that i was not going to spend more than 350 (in my 20s not an ugly piece of shit but not the best looking) . Probably would have accepted dance from any of the girls (except 1 w glasses sara?) but no one approached me for a dance. even when went to stage and tipped 2 or 3$ at a time. appreciate not being hassled for dance but do i now need to hastle the dancers? Was a tall beautiful blonded w great smile would love to spend time with. Seemed like she was in champagne room most of time
big issue relative to Caddy and Fantasies if you happen to have a 9 plus level girl who is shooting for the big money, at Desire there's really no way for her to work on a volume basis the "wanna dance" method, a real handicap - the club instead prefers a laid back/chit chat approach. Now some 9 plus level girls (e.g several at Fantasies) just hang at the bar anyways - so maybe it doesn't matter, but at the Caddy there's definitely some girls that have both the looks and the aggressive style - and they usually do pretty well $$$ wise. Keep in mind, in most clubs regs have limited shelf lives 3 to 6 months some claim, so these "wanna dance" girls get both lots of random business, plus are constantly digging up new regs.
same story i heard asia wasn't available enough and supposedly some other issue, real sweet girl with a big heart, she referred to that guy to the other girls here as "my boyfriend", she definitely has great sense of humor. I have to laugh when I see mention of some russian dancers in jersey, like maybe he buys a dance now and then, well my friend tells me he was describing in detail to her a few months back this very very beautiful blonde 20's russian girl who worked out a jersey club, forget about dancing, that wasn't the deal they had. Jackie who keeps time on saturday upstairs at the club will also tell you he's into these russian girls for sure
The layout is not an issue for me as I go during slow weekdays most of the time. On a recent Friday night visit I was appalled at what a mess this place is when it is crowded. I don't see how dancers can effectively work the room...
They need to build out the main stage because the locker rooms are there and take out the bar near the door to the outside. Then they need to knock out the nude room wall and doors to the exit where you pay to get in. The removed bar can hold seats and tables for peple to site and enjoy. The back are can put more tables maybe hi-top tables and they can put a smaller bar in the bude room and then keep that stage back there for the second stage. There is no need for those 2 large bars to take up all the space. The waitress can't make any money because there are no seats off the bar and if you stand near the bar she can't help you. I hope they split the tips for her.
I was here Thursday night and it was lame. No nude room, not real hot women and no seats. The place has a bad layout. They have only 2 girls on stage at a time and there are no seats other than stage seats even when this place is dead. The talent was pretty low too, I was disappointed. Tuesday nights prove better than this Thursday night. Next time I may go to CF on a Thursday and hope that old nag Billie is off that shift.
I know who this guy is and used to see him all the time last fall and winter with Asia at Fantasy early afternoons, like a dozen times min, supposedly he was buying like 1 in 2 of all champagne rooms she sold and only stopped seeing her recently, something about her only dancing 2 or 3 days a week and taking 2 week vacations every other week -yup that actually sounds about right. I work at T F Green early morning operations and I've also definitely seen this same guy more than once boarding one of the investment company private planes, usually Falcons, that operate between boston and new york city. Not sure who the other dancer is though.
its not about CL, the specific dancers are what matter, as all the major legit clubs in town are excellent with each one offering something special, however to clarify, slightly more than half of that 50k was spent on just 2 specific super-hot dancers who just happened to work out of those clubs. If they worked out of Foxy Lady or Desire, I would have spent the same money in those clubs. However those dancers (one situation still ongoing) are in my estimation 1 in 1000 types in terms of quality level, each one having a very rare combination of beauty, charm, personality, and dancing skills, and I for one have certainly not run into any strippers anywhere near comparable to those two in the northeast USA strip clubs in recent years
correction: try 50k total (since summer 07), 5k spent at Desires, 25k at the Cadillac Lounge and 15k in Fantasies, the rest misc Prov clubs. Not "broke"- just the opposite, way opposite. Maybe at Desire where intensive dancer/customer social interaction is part of the business model (otherwise) high dancer idle time may not be a big issue, however certainly at Cadillac and Fantasies- these high dance/room fees seem not to help anyone, customer or dancers. I and a limited number of other customers do the parking meter thing - feed the girls $$ for hang time, but dancer incomes are mostly dependent upon selling private dances, and sitting idle most of a shift (at prices most customers refuse to pay) will not produce income.
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